Mesajul ar fi mai la locul lui in "Social", insa din lipsa lui... Si poate deja a fost discutat in alte parti pe forum... insa iata informatia trista:


Preston Mendenhall de la MSNBC spune ca
"Nicaieri nu nu este traficul mai rau ca in Moldova, unde expertii estimeaza ca de la caderea Uniunii Sovietice intre 200,000 si 400,000 femei au fost vindute ca prostituate — probabil pina la 10 la suta din populatia de femei a tarii.

Numerele sunt incredibile, si Liuba Revenko de la Organizatia Internationala de Migratie in Moldova spune ca sclavia acestor femei a devenit rutina. “Moldovenii sunt o populatie hibrida de rusi, romani, everei, ucrainieni si bulgari" spune Revenko". "Asta creaza o rasa de femei care sunt frumoase si dorite. Nu au viitor. Sunt o tinta buna pentru traficanti".

preluat din http://www.comp-help.com/index.asp?MID=26

uite aici doamna liuba a cam nimerit-o ... :lol:

uite aici doamna liuba a cam nimerit-o ... :lol:

Unde anume "aici"? In Propozitia 1, 2 sau 3+4? :wink:

Ceva mi se pare straniu in matematica lui Preston Mendenhall :-?

cam in tot textul, dar mai ales in 3+4, dupa matematica ta ... :lol: :wink:

trebuie sa fi total stupid sa crezi asemenea bazaconie...probabil statistica se refera la 10% dintre femeile intre 16 si 30 de ani. Daca se refera la toate femeile ar insemna ca aprox 50% dintre femeile intre 16-30 de ani se prostitueaza in RM...o tampenie desigur...

Niko, mie mi-a placut mai mult a 2. :D

Cam se bat cap in cap "200.000 si 400.000" si "pina la 10 la suta din populatia de femei a tarii", stiind ca populatia totala este de 4,5 milioane.

Mda... strasnica situatie, mie mi se pare ca numarul este mult prea ridicat!

Da, idea cu "populatie hibrida" care "creaza o rasa de femei"... e cam din pod, insa trebuie de acceptat ca fetele noastre sunt frumoase :D

In fine, cred ca cifrele se refera anume la varsta de cca 16-30 ani. Si cum n-ai da, cifrele sunt foarte alarmante. Cu atat mai mult ca se potrivesc cu multe alte materiale care apar recent prin presa occidentala.

La ce am ajuns, oameni buni? :(
Si la ce credeam ca o sa ajungem cu mentalitatea si atitudinea din Moldova?

pai ce sa te mai miri ca si aici la tv a fost o emisiune cu tema prostitutie si ce crezi, mare mi-a fost mirarea ca, subiectul principal era o prostituata din moldova care si-a povestit toata istoria. plus s-a transmis drumul ei spre casa filmat tot, intrarea in casa, copilul mic, de vreo 4-5 ani pe care il avea nici n-a recunoscut-o ... acuma n-am prin emisiunea de la inceput si nu stiu daca de aici plecau sau de undeva din europa. si uite asa ...

Cifrele sunt fff alarmante.... hehehe pai eu nu inteleg...este imposibil ca atatea femei sa fie luate in scalie!

cool, n-am inteles, in ce sa fie luate?

luate=ademenite in scalvie :)

Fiti seriosi, cine pleaca stie perfect unde si pentru ce. La inceput, da, dar acum este experienta de ceva ani si nu cred ca mai sunt fete care "sunt silite sa se prostitueze". Nu neg, pot fi cazuri dar majoritatea pur si simplu prefera sa lucreze cu partea de jos a maduvii spinarii decat cu creierul in intregime. Este mai usor.

Foarte in detaliu. Vezi toate 10 pagini.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/magazine/25SEXTRAFFIC.html?ex=1075611600&en=2a0acf1044fe53b 0&ei=5062

extrase:
"... In Chisinau, the capital of the former Soviet republic of Moldova -- the poorest country in Europe and the one experts say is most heavily culled by traffickers for young women -- I saw a billboard with a fresh-faced, smiling young woman beckoning girls to waitress positions in Paris. But of course there are no waitress positions and no ''Paris.'' Some of these young women are actually tricked into paying their own travel expenses -- typically around $3,000 -- as a down payment on what they expect to be bright, prosperous futures, only to find themselves kept prisoner in Mexico before being moved to the United States and sold into sexual bondage there. ..."

"... Once the Mexican traffickers abduct or seduce the women and young girls, it's not other men who first indoctrinate them into sexual slavery but other women. The victims and officials I spoke to all emphasized this fact as crucial to the trafficking rings' success. ''Women are the principals,'' Caballero, the Mexican federal preventive police officer, told me. ''The victims are put under the influence of the mothers, who handle them and beat them. Then they give the girls to the men to beat and rape into submission.'' Traffickers understand that because women can more easily gain the trust of young girls, they can more easily crush them. ''Men are the customers and controllers, but within most trafficking organizations themselves, women are the operators,'' Haugen says. ''Women are the ones who exert violent force and psychological torture.'' ..."

"... The traffickers' harvest is innocence. Before young women and girls are taken to the United States, their captors want to obliterate their sexual inexperience while preserving its appearance. For the Eastern European girls, this ''preparation'' generally happens in Ensenada, a seaside tourist town in Baja California, a region in Mexico settled by Russian immigrants, or Tijuana, where Nicole, the Russian woman I met in Los Angeles, was taken along with four other girls when she arrived in Mexico. The young women are typically kept in locked-down, gated villas in groups of 16 to 20. The girls are provided with all-American clothing -- Levi's and baseball caps. They learn to say, ''U.S. citizen.'' They are also sexually brutalized. Nicole told me that the day she arrived in Tijuana, three of her traveling companions were ''tried out'' locally. The education lasts for days and sometimes weeks. ..."

"... In Europe, girls and women trafficked for the sex trade gain in value the closer they get to their destinations. According to Iana Matei, who operates Reaching Out, a Romanian rescue organization, a Romanian or Moldovan girl can be sold to her first transporter -- who she may or may not know has taken her captive -- for as little as $60, then for $500 to the next. Eventually she can be sold for $2,500 to the organization that will ultimately control and rent her for sex for tens of thousands of dollars a week. (Though the Moldovan and Romanian organizations typically smuggle girls to Western Europe and not the United States, they are, Matei says, closely allied with Russian and Ukrainian networks that do.) ..."


etc, etc, etc.... Sint mai multe detalii decat vrei sa stii...

Tot din acelasi articol -

"... In Eastern Europe, too, the typical age of sex-trafficking victims is plummeting; according to Matei of Reaching Out, while most girls used to be in their late teens and 20's, 13-year-olds are now far from unusual. ..."

"... Typically, a young trafficking victim in the U.S. lasts in the system for two to four years. After that, Bales says: ''She may be killed in the brothel. She may be dumped and deported. Probably least likely is that she will take part in the prosecution of the people that enslaved her.'' ..."

Poor Moldovans lured into sex trade


By Emma Jane Kirby
BBC correspondent, Moldova

Ruthless sex traders are exploiting tens of thousands of young women from Moldova who are desperately seeking a better life outside Europe's poorest country.

Prostitution is rife on Moscow streets

Florica's blunt fingers moved her knitting needles inexpertly.

Occasionally she scowled and put her hand to her stomach - she was eight months pregnant and clearly uncomfortable.

Florica had not planned this pregnancy. She was carrying the child of the man who had raped her and who had then sold her into prostitution in Russia.

Today was her 17th birthday.

"Happy Birthday, dear!" cooed Lilia, a big, homely-looking woman who was sitting beside Florica and her two sisters.

Lilia was the local psychiatrist and she gave me the rough outline of Florica's story. Rejected by their mother, all three girls had found themselves on the streets.


The sisters were brutally beaten, chained to beds and forced to have sex with hundreds of men

They were easy prey for the "traffickers", the criminal gangs who seek out vulnerable women, con them into believing they can offer them great jobs abroad, before forcing them to work as prostitutes.

When Florica was told she and her sisters would be working in an office in Paris, she had no hesitation in boarding the bus for Romania, from where she expected to make the long journey to France.

It did not happen, of course.

The sisters were brutally beaten and bundled into a car bound for Moscow, where for the next six months they were chained to beds and forced to have sex with hundreds of men.

Blind risk

I looked over again at Florica who was still knitting mechanically, staring into space with dull eyes.

Lilia seemed to know what I was thinking. "She's not quite alive, is she?" she whispered.

"Once, I asked her how she felt, being raped by all those men, and she told me that at first it was so cruel she was sure she had gone to hell, and then after a few days it just didn't matter any more, because she had ceased to matter."

And the most frightening thing is that to many people in Moldova, Florica really does not matter. Or at least they cannot afford for her to matter.

Moldova is Europe's poorest country. In the capital city, Chisinau, the average wage is about $2 a day. In the countryside, it is half that.

And that is what prompts so many people to look for work abroad. One in three Moldovans now live outside their country.

The hope of a more prosperous future means risk is embraced almost blindly. Tell a desperate girl like Florica a fairytale about France and she will believe you because she wants, and perhaps needs, to believe you.

Grim reality

Teaching young women the art of reading between the lines is the goal of one of the charity groups working in Moldova, the International Organisation for Migration.

It is sponsoring the screening of a special film called Lilja 4-Ever in all Moldovan secondary schools.

Lilja 4-Ever is a gritty, frightening movie which many Western European parents might object to their teenage daughters seeing.

Sixteen-year-old Lilja, abandoned by her mother, is left to fend for herself until she meets a man in a bar who promises her a flashy job in Sweden. When she arrives in Stockholm, of course, that flashy job turns out to be prostitution and there are graphic scenes as Lilja is shown being brutalised by scores of old and dirty men.

Watching the film in a Chisinau high school one afternoon, I was embarrassed to find I was crying.

The actress playing Lilja was a slender blonde and she shared no physical resemblance with Florica, but there was something about her eyes which was all too familiar; dead eyes which reflected nothing and which entertained no hope.

I should not have been self-conscious about the tears, all around me the students were sobbing. Many of them would have had older sisters or friends who had gone abroad and who had then mysteriously failed to write home ever again.

"However much we need money," instructed their teacher after the film was finished, "we must not be tempted to take risks."

Poverty

Money is needed everywhere including, I discovered, at the local police station.

Superintendent Ion Bejan had kindly agreed to talk to us about the Moldovan police force's efforts to crack down on the trafficking gangs who were targeting girls like Florica.

He was embarrassed as he showed us into his office at Chisinau police station; he did not have much furniture, he said, and he apologised for the room being a bit dark, but not all the lights had bulbs in them.


We do not have enough patrol cars, we cannot afford enough officers and our weapons are old
Superintendent Ion Bejan

On his spacious desk there were a few neat piles of paper folders which he tapped proudly.

"All our solved cases," he said. "The Moldovan police force really is cracking down on the trafficking gangs."

But I know that Florica's case notes are not among those triumphant papers. I know that because I am aware the police have not even begun an investigation into what happened to her.

It is not that they do not care, they simply do not have the funding for yet another case.

When I called up the Chisinau police station and asked one of the officers if we could drive to the Romanian border with them to film their work at the crossing point - the spot where Florica had been sold - there was an awkward silence on the line before a strained voice responded.

"Well, could you possibly pay for our petrol?" they said. "You see, we only get a limited amount for the week."

Superintendent Bejan is a proud man and he does not like it when I mention money.

As soon as I say I want to start filming him he excuses himself. He goes to a cupboard in the corner and pulls out a beautifully pressed uniform - carefully preserved in plastic sheets - so that he might "look more the part."


Once you meet a girl who has been sold into the sex trade and you see the terrible injuries she has received, you want to get the man that did it to her
Superintendent Ion Bejan

Once dressed, he sits down again behind his vast desk. And then suddenly I realise why the desk looks so big. The Chief of the Moldovan Police Force does not even have a computer.

"No, we do not have much, " he agrees miserably. "It is pretty hard to keep track of cases when you only have paper records. It makes sharing information across different districts a bit difficult."

He looks down at his paper folders and becomes more animated.

"We do not have enough patrol cars, we cannot afford enough officers, our weapons are old and, well...," he points to my chair. I am sitting on an old car seat which has been glued to two lumps of metal.

It is a known fact that where there is abject poverty in a society, there is usually overt corruption too. Superintendent Bejan acknowledges the problem but says he is confident things are improving.

"It used to be really bad," he said. "But now the officers are committed to stopping trafficking. Once you meet a girl who has been sold into the sex trade and you have seen for yourself the terrible injuries she has received, well, you want to get the man that did it to her, you want him brought to justice."

Go-between

I thought of Florica back in her hostel, silently knitting baby clothes for her rapist's child and I knew that she had long given up any hope that justice would come her way.

"But people are caught," insisted the superintendent, and perhaps to drive home the point, he suggested I go down to the police cells to meet someone he had arrested last week on suspicion of trafficking. I agreed to go.

The jail was in the basement, it was a dungeon, a place of childhood nightmares; damp, dark corners with peeling paint, and the fusty air was filled with the sound of strange, muffled shouts and cries.

The average income in Moldova is just a few dollars a day

"She is in here," said Bejan.

"She?" I asked incredulously.

"Oh yes" he smiled. "Svetlana is a woman and a family doctor. In Moldova, many people will do anything for a few dollars."

Svetlana's cell was tiny and it contained nothing but a filthy double bed which she shared with another woman.

Along the corridor, a radio was blasting out a maddening football chant. It could not be switched off, I was told - it was there to stop prisoners talking to each other.

Svetlana was a fat woman whose face was dripping with perspiration and tears. She stank of old meat.

"I was just the go-between," she kept saying. "I told you I did not know the girl was going to be sold to the traffickers. I just got the papers for her so she could go abroad."

"I know you are lying," said Bejan. "It was the girl herself who told us about you." Svetlana began to sob.

"I was not even paid," she insisted. "I was not even paid."


We have talked about poverty and corruption in the Moldovan police force... What makes you think the justice system is in any better shape?
Superintendent Ion Bejan

Superintendent Bejan asked if I had any questions for Svetlana. I asked her if she knew what had happened to the girl she had arranged the papers for her.

"She thought she was going to be a dancer in Germany," she said softly. "But she was made to work as a prostitute in Saudi Arabia."

I asked her if she felt bad about the part she had played in bringing the girl such unimaginable misery. Svetlana covered her face with her hands and wept.

Later, after she had been taken back to her cell, I became curious about the sentence she would receive if found guilty at her trial.

Superintendent Bejan smiled. "She will probably get away scot-free," he said. "We will get her to court and then she will probably just walk away at the end of it."

I looked at him incredulously and felt my face flush red with anger.

"We have talked about poverty and corruption in the Moldovan police force," he said politely. "What makes you think the Moldovan justice system is in any better shape?"

Unimaginable misery

It is sometimes difficult to remember that Moldova is a European country but if Romania succeeds in its bid to join the European Union, then Moldova will form the EU's external border.

With African levels of poverty, no-one is exactly on tenterhooks waiting for Moldova's accession date to be announced.

In fact, few people see any future in staying in the country. Day after day the bus stations, thick with diesel fumes, are packed with impatient people buying tickets for the battered, blue minibuses which will take them over the Romanian border.

I met one of the buses at the crossing point and talked to some of the young women on board who were jittery with excitement.

One of them, Elena, was about 19 and dressed from head to toe in fake Gucci, from her pink-tinted sunglasses to her synthetic leather mini skirt.

"I am not really going to Romania," she blurted, "I have got a friend in Italy, he is my boyfriend... well, I have not seen him for three years, but he says if I meet him in Romania, he can get me a job in a fashion house in Rome!"

I asked Elena warily if she was sure she could trust this "boyfriend" she had not seen for so long?

"He loves me!" she laughed. "It is a great chance for me."

An immigration officer stamped her passport and slipped a leaflet inside it.

"Can you be sure you are not the victim of a trafficking scam?" asked the leaflet, printed by an international charity organisation. "If you are worried," it said, "and want to talk to someone in confidence, call our hotline."

I felt a ridiculous urge to run after the bus, to thump on its windows and yell at Elena and her young friends to get off, to turn around, to go back. But to go back to what? A dollar a day?

A dollar a day when you know that just over the border is the real Europe, the Europe where people go to college, can find jobs, can afford to buy nice clothes? A chance, as Elena said, there was just a chance that it might work out OK.

But as I watched the bus recede into the distance, with Elena's grinning face beaming at me through the back window, I could not help wondering if that is how Florica had looked when, six months before, she had boarded a bus she thought was taking her to Paris.

Some of the names used in this article have been changed to protect identities.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/3878503.stm

With African levels of poverty...

WFT?? LOL

The United States is giving eight countries, including Mexico and India, $50 million for anti-human trafficking efforts, the State Department said Friday.

The other countries are Brazil, Cambodia, Indonesia, Moldova, Sierra Leone, and Tanzania.

http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=C1410708-BCC8-4369-93F440DDF5652C56

The other countries are Brazil, Cambodia, Indonesia, Moldova, Sierra Leone, and Tanzania.


Bad neighbours ....

Ar trebui poate ca moderatorii sau autorul topicului sa schimbe titlu temei...pentru ca e clar o aberatie aceasta "estimare" din partea "expertzilor".....venita din dezinformare ori reaintentzie, cum a mai zis cineva....sa stie lumea ca nu suntem o tzara de curve si racketzi, cum cred unii...scuzati termenii, dar sunt un pic indignat pentru oamenii care muncesk cinstit peste hotare, pacat ca majoritatea la negru si de aia nu se pot face baze de date reale cu forta de munca, ajungandu-se din cauza unor "tzaranci" naive care se ocupa cu alte activitatzi....la unele statistici complet ayurea in tramvai, prostie curata. Oricum problema totusi exista cu acele 20-30 de mii cate or fi ele...si trebuie gasite solutzii neaparat, altfel am dat de dracu' peste cativa ani...nici nu mai stii la ce sa te asteptzi de la Moldova asta...

De ce ati sters post-urile lui Syrus?Mie personal mi-au plakut.. erau klumea si adevarate...mai ales cand s-a prikalit de postul lui GULIKUL. In plus sunt de acord cu el, in multe privintze..."tyrfele" trebuie sa ramana acolo unde sunt...n-au ce cauta in Moldova...cred ca multi sunt de acord in privintza asta.
Parca nu era nimic ilegal acolo..sau poate au insistat Lia&Redneck ca sa luat de ei cu "traiasca US","moarte rushilor"...Nu va suparatzi Lia si Redneck,sunt nou pe forum...dar din cele citite pan acum, cam asta se intelege din posturile voastre... cred ca a generalizat si Syrus...Oricum avetzi unele probleme de echilibru' astai clar...

P.S:
Sunt de cateva zile pe forum si am observat ca exista un oarecare razboi intre tabere
... Redneck, Lia, NITROUS, Vali,... pe o parte si pe cealalta
xx, mafia, deleanu, han solo,gulikul , mircea kaag, syrus & CO...
Interesant...Est Coast...West Coast...trebu' de facut thread pe tema asta...



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Itzi doresc tot ce-mi doreshti tu mie,dar sa ti se-ntample tzie...

In plus sunt de acord cu el, in multe privintze..."tyrfele" trebuie sa ramana acolo unde sunt...n-au ce cauta in Moldova...cred ca multi sunt de acord in privintza asta.
Inca o dovada a faptului ca mentalitatea totalitara este inradacinata adanc in RM.
Niste talibani oieri, zau!



P.S:
Sunt de cateva zile pe forum si am observat ca exista un oarecare razboi intre tabere
... Redneck, Lia, NITROUS, Vali,... pe o parte si pe cealalta
xx, mafia, deleanu, han solo,gulikul , mircea kaag, syrus & CO...
Interesant...Est Coast...West Coast...trebu' de facut thread pe tema asta...

Pentru cineva aflat de cateva zile pe forum ai un spirit de observatie mult prea bun.
Iar aliasurile mafia, han solo, gulikul, ca si multe altele, apartin unei singure persoane, Radu Midrigan, un extremist cu grave probleme psihopatologice.

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Inca o dovada a faptului ca mentalitatea totalitara este inradacinata adanc in RM.
Niste talibani oieri, zau!
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Redneck....vreau sa vad ce propui tu...in privintza asta
Vrei sa vina in MD 30.000 de prostituate...tu itzi dai seama ce inseamna asta pentru Moldova?...fii mai realist. :o

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Inca o dovada a faptului ca mentalitatea totalitara este inradacinata adanc in RM.
Niste talibani oieri, zau!
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Redneck....vreau sa vad ce propui tu...in privintza asta
Vrei sa vina in MD 30.000 de prostituate...tu itzi dai seama ce inseamna asta pentru Moldova?...fii mai realist. :o

Radu, in primul rand, vrei tu sau nu vrei, ele vor reveni odata. Asha ca fii tu mai realist, inainte de a-i cere asta lui Redneck. In al doilea rand, daca "boborul" din "rm" nu-shi da seama ca votand aiu.rea ishi taie craca de sub picioare, acum va trebui sa AFLE asta. Daca inconshtientzii noshtri nu ar fi votat cum au votat, nu am fi avut aceasta problema acum. Ideea e ca TOTUL se plateshte, inlcusiv prostia celor care voteaza cu picioarele, nu cu capul. :(

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Inca o dovada a faptului ca mentalitatea totalitara este inradacinata adanc in RM.
Niste talibani oieri, zau!
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Redneck....vreau sa vad ce propui tu...in privintza asta
Vrei sa vina in MD 30.000 de prostituate...tu itzi dai seama ce inseamna asta pentru Moldova?...fii mai realist. :o

In orice caz nu propun metode fasciste cum ar fi interdictia de a reveni in RM, sterelizare sau exterminare, asa cum propun Radu Midrigan, Syrus si tu. Si mai observ o atitudine dispretuitoare fata de victimile traficului uman.

liutza: eu nu-s BetterDayz
nu stiu cine-i asta dar ii dau dreptate.
nu vreau sa se intoarca tyrfele in MD

Intr-al doilea rind, eu am votat cu pRoska
Dar i-as sfatui pe toti sa-l voteze pe bashkanul Urekila la alegerile care se aproie.
Daca nu vreti sa cistige iarasi comunistii atunci votati-l pe bashkanul kishington-ului
A vota pentru pRoska inseamna sa-i aduci pe comunisti la putere.

liutza: eu nu-s BetterDayz
nu stiu cine-i asta dar ii dau dreptate.
nu vreau sa se intoarca tyrfele in MD

Intr-al doilea rind, eu am votat cu pRoska
Dar i-as sfatui pe toti sa-l voteze pe bashkanul Urekila la alegerile care se aproie.
Daca nu vreti sa cistige iarasi comunistii atunci votati-l pe bashkanul kishington-ului
A vota pentru pRoska inseamna sa-i aduci pe comunisti la putere.

Nu ma mira ca moldovenistul si extremistul Radu Midrigan nu mai vrea sa voteze cu PPCD.
Moldovenistul la moldovenisti trage.

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BetterDayz a scris:
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Inca o dovada a faptului ca mentalitatea totalitara este inradacinata adanc in RM.
Niste talibani oieri, zau!
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Redneck....vreau sa vad ce propui tu...in privintza asta
Vrei sa vina in MD 30.000 de prostituate...tu itzi dai seama ce inseamna asta pentru Moldova?...fii mai realist.


Radu, in primul rand, vrei tu sau nu vrei, ele vor reveni odata. Asha ca fii tu mai realist, inainte de a-i cere asta lui Redneck. In al doilea rand, daca "boborul" din "rm" nu-shi da seama ca votand aiu.rea ishi taie craca de sub picioare, acum va trebui sa AFLE asta. Daca inconshtientzii noshtri nu ar fi votat cum au votat, nu am fi avut aceasta problema acum. Ideea e ca TOTUL se plateshte, inlcusiv prostia celor care voteaza cu picioarele, nu cu capul.
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In primul rand nu ma cheama Radu....in al doilea rand nu prea inteleg ce vrei sa faci tu cu 30000 de prostituate si cu copii lor...care cu siguranta majoritatea din ei ...vor fi traumati sau handicapati... Ne ajung atatia "veterani" in MD care nu produc nimic... ne mai trebuie inca o problema demografika si totul va fi bine...Use your brain LIa..Singura solutie reala este sa ramana acolo, si daca s-ar face un poll cu siguranta asta ar fi cea mai votata optiune.
Cat despre <<"boborul" din "rm" si politica>> aici TOT Respektu'...a inceput sa-ti functioneze cerebelul.:)...Personal votez cu Oleg Serebrian si le-as recomanda tuturor....


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BetterDayz a scris:
In plus sunt de acord cu el, in multe privintze..."tyrfele" trebuie sa ramana acolo unde sunt...n-au ce cauta in Moldova...cred ca multi sunt de acord in privintza asta.

Inca o dovada a faptului ca mentalitatea totalitara este inradacinata adanc in RM.
Niste talibani oieri, zau!
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In orice caz nu propun metode fasciste cum ar fi interdictia de a reveni in RM, sterelizare sau exterminare, asa cum propun Radu Midrigan, Syrus si tu. Si mai observ o atitudine dispretuitoare fata de victimile traficului uman.
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Whatz your point?redneck.... unde am zis eu ca trebuie exterminate sau sterilizate. Asta e deja nesimtire si dezinformare la greu, si pentru asta ar trebui banati Iuzveri ca tine...!Atentzie moderatorilor...
Point-ul meu este sa ramana "folklorul" acolo unde e si sa nu revina in .md...
Daca tot te dai avocatul prostituatelor...eu nu prea inteleg cum poate 30000 de tzaranci sa fie victime ale traficului uman cum Ii zici tu...la inceput poate...dar pe urma deja era de buna voie si nesilita de nimeni...asta e...
Facetzi kibinimateri un poll la tema asta sa vedetzi ce rezultate vor fi...

In primul rand nu ma cheama Radu....in al doilea rand nu prea inteleg ce vrei sa faci tu cu 30000 de prostituate si cu copii lor...care cu siguranta majoritatea din ei ...vor fi traumati sau handicapati... Ne ajung atatia "veterani" in MD care nu produc nimic... ne mai trebuie inca o problema demografika si totul va fi bine...Use your brain LIa..

Exact, use your brain, Raducu (atata timp cat vei gandi ca radu, nu vad de ce nu te-ash dezmierda asha :)! vrei tu sau nu vrei, NU le potzi interzice sa se intoarca in rm. Asta pentru ca a le interzice sa revina ar insemna incalcarea dreputurilor fundamentale ale omului, dar shi pentru ca nici o tzara nu ar fi de acord cu o astfelde "lege", daca rm ar adopta-o.
Daca votezi cu Serebrian shi eshti asha de deshtept, ar trebui sa shtii acest lucru. Shi sa fii mia realist, cand vii cu "propuneri". Clar?

In plus, aceasta atitudine denigratoare fatza de victimele traficului cu fiintze umane este chiar desgustatoare. Ar trebui sa te revolte cel putzin la fel de tare shi cei care fac bani pe seama acestui trafic - "peshtii mari", am in vedere. Pe ei, care GENEREAZA problema, unde ii vei "trimite"? Or, atata timp cat exista posibilitatea de a face bani de pe urma scalviei sexuale, va exista shi problema asta.


Singura solutie reala este sa ramana acolo, si daca s-ar face un poll cu siguranta asta ar fi cea mai votata optiune.

Mare lucru un poll. Oricum, solutzi ta este IREALIZABILA, am spus deja de ce.

{quote]Cat despre <<"boborul" din "rm" si politica>> aici TOT Respektu'...a inceput sa-ti functioneze cerebelul....Personal votez cu Oleg Serebrian si le-as recomanda tuturor.... [/quote]

Recomanda. Daca votezi cu Serebrian, votezi shi cu fostul reprezentant Tass (alias KGB) la Bucureshti, shi cu "sindicalistul de cariera" Urechean. Zici ca solutzia e Unirea rm cu Romania? Voteaza cum vrei, shi ashteapta ca Diacov sa aplice aceasta solutzie. Itzi urez succes, dar ia-tzi un scaunel pentru ca sa-tzi fie mai comod sa ashteptzi! :ciupos:

lia: fii serioasa
tu il vezi pe rosca viitor presedinte al R.M ?
mai mult de cele zece procente rosca nu va acumula si votindu-l le veti face jocul comunistilor.
lia/redneck probabil mor de ciuda ca opozitia democrata s-a unit si au format partidul Moldova Democrata.
daca ii va putea invinge cineva pe comunisti, astia vor fi bashkanul urekila and co

lia: fii serioasa
tu il vezi pe rosca viitor presedinte al R.M ?
mai mult de cele zece procente rosca nu va acumula si votindu-l le veti face jocul comunistilor.
lia/redneck probabil mor de ciuda ca opozitia democrata s-a unit si au format partidul Moldova Democrata.
daca ii va putea invinge cineva pe comunisti, astia vor fi bashkanul urekila and co

Raducu, da cine vorbeshte de "preshedinte" aici? Din cate shtiu nu asta e problema... :wtf: Am zis doar ca nu cred in jurnalistul- KGBist Diacov. Shi nici in Urechila-sindicalistul sovietic. Atat deocamdarta. Cat despre procentajul pe care il va avea PPCD, multe presupuneri se pot face, dar... vom trai shi vom vedea.

Nu moare nimeni, stai linishtiti, e bine ca s-au unit foshtii agrarieni din nou impreuna, pacat ce e shi Serebrian cu ei, dar... a lui a fost alegerea... :( Apropo, eu consider ca este bine ca te-ai apucat sa faci propganda electorlala pentru "Moldova Lor" ;)

nu se mai numeste "Moldova Voastra" viitorul partid
ci "Moldova Derimo-crata"

nu se mai numeste "Moldova Voastra" viitorul partid
ci "Moldova Derimo-crata"

Zau? Nu cumva crezi ca nu shtiam? :D In esentza insa e ceea ce am scris eu : "Moldova Lor" (adica a mafiotzilor agrarieni). :)

Whatz your point?redneck.... unde am zis eu ca trebuie exterminate sau sterilizate. Asta e deja nesimtire si dezinformare la greu, si pentru asta ar trebui banati Iuzveri ca tine...!Atentzie moderatorilor...
Point-ul meu este sa ramana "folklorul" acolo unde e si sa nu revina in .md...
Daca tot te dai avocatul prostituatelor...eu nu prea inteleg cum poate 30000 de tzaranci sa fie victime ale traficului uman cum Ii zici tu...la inceput poate...dar pe urma deja era de buna voie si nesilita de nimeni...asta e...
Facetzi kibinimateri un poll la tema asta sa vedetzi ce rezultate vor fi...

Exterminare a cerut Radu Midrigan, tu ai cerut sa li se interzica reveinrea in RM, iar sub aliasul Syrus ai cerut sterilizarea lor. Te intreb de ce minti?


De ce ati sters post-urile lui Syrus?Mie personal mi-au plakut.. erau klumea si adevarate...mai ales cand s-a prikalit de postul lui GULIKUL. In plus sunt de acord cu el, in multe privintze..."tyrfele" trebuie sa ramana acolo unde sunt...n-au ce cauta in Moldova...cred ca multi sunt de acord in privintza asta.
Parca nu era nimic ilegal acolo..sau poate au insistat Lia&Redneck ca sa luat de ei cu "traiasca US","moarte rushilor"...Nu va suparatzi Lia si Redneck,sunt nou pe forum...dar din cele citite pan acum, cam asta se intelege din posturile voastre... cred ca a generalizat si Syrus...Oricum avetzi unele probleme de echilibru' astai clar...



Cred ca solutiile sunt 2 : ori le "sterilizeza"))) si incearca sa se integreze in societate din nou cu toate ca e putin probabil si asta ar fi in cel mai bun caz ori cum a zis si pashtashunea sa ramana [cenzurat] acolo, ca nu trebuie nimanui si sa uite de cuvantul Moldova...
....sa nasca puradei turcilor, albanezilor,italienilor si pe unde mai sant ele.
Oricum repet cifrele sunt mult exagerate si aici cred ca si-au bagat coada si romanii care conduc detasat la productia de Koorve in Eurasia si ne baga pe noi exagerat prin statistici...
Problema e ca acei care pleaca la munca cinstita peste hotare, pleaca majoritatea ilegal si nu se pot face baze de date reale a fortei de munca, ajunganduse la aproximari [cenzurat] la cancelariiile europene.
Trebuite gasite fonduri europene[si ele exista! , dar nu ajung unde trebuie]pentru programe de stopare a fenomenului tarfulitetzelor...alfel am dat de draku' pentru destul timp....

Way, revenitzi la koorve...

Te intreb inca o data: de ce minti?

Pe planeta eu am nickul Syrus...si nu vad nici o problema....in asta...
Cand m-am inregistrat eu pe mdnet...nickul Syrus era deja...
Cat priveste similaritazile din mesaje...intrebal pe el...si nu mai freka menta...
Cum ti-a zis Syrus,Kaag,Radu,Deleanu.... iatzi o vioara :-? LOL...
Cer moderatorilor sa ia masuri asupra acestor insinuari gratuite din partea unor...ametitzi..ca Lia&Redneck...

Pe planeta eu am nickul Syrus...si nu vad nici o problema....in asta...
Cand m-am inregistrat eu pe mdnet...nickul Syrus era deja...
Cat priveste similaritazile din mesaje...intrebal pe el...si nu mai freka menta...
Zau? Doi ignoranti, mesajele carora seamana leit nu au putut imparti un alias? Esti ridicol, mincinosule! Inca o data te intreb: cand iti vei cere scuze pentru minciuna?

Cum ti-a zis Syrus,Kaag,Radu,Deleanu.... iatzi o vioara :-? LOL...
Cer moderatorilor sa ia masuri asupra acestor insinuari gratuite din partea unor...ametitzi..ca Lia&Redneck...
Ce frumos i-ai adunat la un loc pe moldovenistii primitivi, romanofobi si rusopupincuristi de pe acest forum. O gasca aleasa!

Financial Times (London, England)

July 23, 2004 Friday
London Edition 2

A new approach to the oldest profession
By MARTIN WOLF

Prostitution is known as the oldest profession. The chances of eliminating it are zero. Sensible people should, instead, try to minimise the harm it causes. Unfortunately, unrestrained moralism has obstructed application of the needed common sense.

The advanced country most addicted to this vice is the US, where drug policy is extremely punitive and prostitution is illegal in all states, except Nevada. The UK is more sensible. Prostitution itself is legal, but soliciting and advertising by prostitutes, "kerb-crawling" - or the soliciting of prostitutes - and, most important, living from the earnings of prostitutes are all illegal. To his credit, David Blunkett, the home secretary, is considering the legalisation of brothels and the introduction of "managed zones" for street prostitution.

To see the absurdity of how prostitution is currently handled, imagine that, under the influence of animal-rights campaigners, the eating of meat were to become illegal. A black market would spring up. The quality of the meat supplied would pose a danger to health. Criminals would soon add meat to their range of illegal wares. In time, 'meat-dealers' might be viewed with as much opprobrium as pimps or drug-dealers are today.

Thus it is now with prostitution, as the Home Office's consultation paper* makes clear. A close link exists between illegal drugs and prostitution, with pimps often suppliers of both. Prostitutes, unable to work within properly regulated businesses, are made far more vulnerable to violent customers and predation by pimps. Driven to the streets - how else, under British law, can prostitutes legally find their clients? - prostitution is also a public nuisance.

In such an environment, nobody can ensure the health of prostitutes. In many countries, prostitutes are also the principal vector for spreading sexually transmitted diseases, above all HIV/Aids. In the UK, HIV/Aids is a concern, but chiefly where prostitutes also inject drugs. Since 95 per cent of street prostitutes are "problematic drug users" they must create a substantial risk in this way, too.

Many find prostitution inherently abhorrent. Moreover, as one would expect, prostitutes tend to come from violent homes, local authority care homes or, frequently, from both. They are often coerced into prostitution while still children. Every effort must be made to provide these vulnerable people with a route from drug dependency and prostitution into better ways of life.

Yet the question is whether making any aspect of prostitution - or the supply and consumption of hard drugs - illegal reduces or aggravates such ills. In the case of prostitution, the answer seems quite clear. Living off prostitution does not disappear by being made illegal. It is driven underground or on to the streets, where the social ills are increased.

What then is the sensible route for policy? The reviews of experience elsewhere in the Home Office report show that improvement will not be easy, but there are interesting examples to draw on.

In New South Wales, for example, it is legal to run a brothel, subject to the planning consent of local authorities. Brothels are regulated in the same way as other legitimate businesses. There are no controls over who may run a brothel but there are restrictions on advertising premises for prostitution and soliciting on a public street near a dwelling, school, church or hospital. In the Netherlands, Greece and some Australian states, brothels are also legal, but receive special licences.

Another approach is to regulate prostitutes with a view to ensuring their health. But this, too, drives prostitutes underground. It is better to offer health checks and medical services confidentially.

The best approach, it appears, is to bring the trade into the open, through decriminalisation and regulation, and to continue to punish abuse - particularly of children - severely, while endeavouring to ensure that adults who work as prostitutes do so voluntarily.

The biggest single step for the UK would be to legalise brothels. Meanwhile, planning controls should be used to designate certain areas of towns for those purposes. Discreet advertising should also be permitted to reduce the number of prostitutes plying their trade on the streets.

We cannot legislate virtue. But we can minimise the harm done by vice. To turn activities condemned as immoral into crimes is to add injury to insult. In 2002, there were only eight cases in England and Wales where a person was found guilty of keeping a brothel. Mr Blunkett is pointing in what the legal system already sees as the sensible direction. We should all now prepare to follow him.

Articolul tradus in l.rusa
http://www.inosmi.ru/stories/02/07/18/3106/211530.html

cum le numeste redneck pe kyrve/tyrfe: "femei cu un comportament sexual libertin" ... :lol:
asta rupe tare de tat...
trebuie sa ramina in arhiva forumului...

redneck: cind am zis eu ca trebuie exterminate ?

eu am zis ca trebuie sa faca sapun din ele :D
SA NU LE MAI DEA VOIE SA SE INTOARCA IN MOLDOVA !
lasa-le sa ramina acolo :tu_mori:

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BetterDayz a scris:
Pe planeta eu am nickul Syrus...si nu vad nici o problema....in asta...
Cand m-am inregistrat eu pe mdnet...nickul Syrus era deja...
Cat priveste similaritazile din mesaje...intrebal pe el...si nu mai freka menta...

Zau? Doi ignoranti, mesajele carora seamana leit nu au putut imparti un alias? Esti ridicol, mincinosule! Inca o data te intreb: cand iti vei cere scuze pentru minciuna?
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Redneck, esti tampit...
In cazul asta pot sa zic si eu ca redneck de pe computergames si softpedia...esti tu...
PARANOIA dute la culcare...:crazy: :crazy:

Ce puii mei vrei sa faci tu redneck cu "victimile trafikului uman" din Moldova?
Obiectiv turistik...Da, ar fi o varianta si asta...legalizam prostitutzia,investim in renovarea bordelurilor,chemam folklorul acasa...
S-au gasit aici avocatzi...Redneck&Liana...nu cumva suntetzi victime ale trafikului...pe bune..cred ca din interes profesional sunt afirmatiile astea...
"In orice caz nu propun metode fasciste cum ar fi interdictia de a reveni in RM, sterelizare sau exterminare, asa cum propun Radu Midrigan, Syrus si tu. Si mai observ o atitudine dispretuitoare fata de victimile traficului uman."

Te-am mai intrebat pretene... unde am pomenit yo de exterminare..si..sterelizare? Ar trebui un scuze-moi...Daca Nu, atunci moderatotul zeidrik..sa dea dovada de profesionalism...si sa te trimita nahui peste cardon impreuna cu sor-ta...
Astept si eu scuze pentru insinuari,calomnii si nesimtzire din partea ta...
Sper ca n-o sa ma iei drept Michael Jackson dupa mesaga asta.:)..dar la ametzirea ta... everything is possible...



P.S: Moderatorii sa faca un poll la tema asta...sa vedetzi ca va fi 80% pentru interdictie...

sa dea dovada de profesionalism...si sa te trimita [cenzurat] peste cardon impreuna cu sor-ta...

lia e sotia cuplului filea-redneck :D

Ce puii mei vrei sa faci tu redneck cu "victimile trafikului uman" din Moldova?
Nestimat mincinos, ti-a explicat foarte bine Lia, insa creierul tau refuza sa inteleaga.
Din start intrebarea este pusa in asa hal incat sa implice culpabilitatea si contagiozitatea victimelor sclaviei sexuale. Ce nu intelegi tu, este ca majoritatea covarsitoare a acestor femei au fost traficate prin minciuna si obligate sa se prostitueze. Nu uita si de faptul ca fiind in sclavie aceste femei sunt supuse violentei fizice si perversiunilor sexuale. Sunt victime si nu sunt paria, cum dezgustator le consideri tu. Victime ce necesita stringent asistenta medicala, psihologica si sociala. Iar culpabilitatea in primul rand este a Republicii "the failed state" Moldova, a guvernantilor care au creat un teren favorabil pentru aparitia traficului de femei, guvernanti care au tergiversat crearea unui cadru juridic bine pus la punct, astfel permitand amplificarea acestui fenomen, guvernanti care faciliteaza profitabil traficantii de carne vie. Pe ei trebuie sa-i combati!
Pe de alta parte, ce nu intelegi tu, taliban oier pentru care drepturile omului sunt un mare mister, este ca persoanele carora le vrei sa interzici reintoarcerea in RM sunt cetateni ai acestui stat si o astfel de interdictie ar fi o violare grasa a Constitutiei RM si a Conventiei pentru Apararea Drepturilor Omului si a Libertatilor Fundamentale (semnata de RM).

Obiectiv turistik...Da, ar fi o varianta si asta...legalizam prostitutzia,investim in renovarea bordelurilor,chemam folklorul acasa...

Cand vei face o delimitare clara dintre prostitutie si traficul de fiinte umane, atunci mai discutam. Intre timp citeste articolul recomandat de mine.

S-au gasit aici avocatzi...Redneck&Liana...nu cumva suntetzi victime ale trafikului...pe bune..cred ca din interes profesional sunt afirmatiile astea...

Elucubratii gratuite.


Te-am mai intrebat pretene...

Prieteni iti sunt cei cu care pasti oile si curati la porci.

unde am pomenit yo de exterminare..si..sterelizare? Ar trebui un scuze-moi...Daca Nu, atunci moderatotul zeidrik..sa dea dovada de profesionalism...si sa te trimita [cenzurat] peste cardon impreuna cu sor-ta...
Astept si eu scuze pentru insinuari,calomnii si nesimtzire din partea ta...


Ti-am explicat in mesajul precedent, nu mai insista caci devii jenant de prost.

Sper ca n-o sa ma iei drept Michael Jackson dupa mesaga asta.:)..dar la ametzirea ta... everything is possible...

P.S: Moderatorii sa faca un poll la tema asta...sa vedetzi ca va fi 80% pentru interdictie...

Vorbesti de parca un poll ar face propunerea ta mai putin fascista.

sa dea dovada de profesionalism...si sa te trimita [cenzurat] peste cardon impreuna cu sor-ta...

lia e sotia cuplului filea-redneck :D

A vorbit un arierat mintal si a tras o ragaitura.

GRM1858W* TURCIA ESTE DESTINATIA PRACTICATA CEL MAI FRECVENT DE
TRAFICANTII DE FEMEI RACOLATE IN REPUBLICA MOLDOVA

Chisinau-24.07.2004/11:16:35/(BASA-general) Cele mai recente date
referitoare la traficul de femei, facute publice de Ministerul de
Interne, arata ca Turcia este destinatia practicata cel mai des de
traficantii care isi racoleaza victimele in Republica Moldova.

Potrivit unui comunicat prezentat pentru difuzare agentiei BASA-press
de catre directia pentru combaterea traficului ilicit de persoane a
Ministerului de Interne, in prima jumatate a anului curent politistii
moldoveni au anihilat 37 de filiere de trafic de persoane, dintre
care 11 aveau punctul de destinatie in Turcia, 10 -in Emiratele
Arabe, 7 - in Federatia Rusa, 4 - in Macedonia, 5 - in Romania.

MAI anunta ca la Chisinau au fost retinuti un cetatean turc si un
cetatean al Federatia Ruse, suspectati de racolarea si traficarea
tinerilor moldovence. Cetateanul turc a si fost condamnat la cinci
ani privatiunie de libertate pentru proxenetism, sentinta fiind data
de Judecatoria sectorului Buiucani al municipiului Chisinau.

Politia anunta ca a intentat 287 de dosare pentru trafic de persoane, in
28 de cazuri fiind vorba despre racolarea copiilor.

In prezent, nici Guvernul R.Moldova si nici organizatiile
neguvernamentale nu dispun de date exacte privind numarul femeilor
moldovene care au ajuns sa se prostitueze in strainatate dupa ce
au fost ademenite cu diverse oferte de munca.

Potrivit datelor prezentate de OIM in Rep. Moldova, pe parcursul a
trei ani peste 1200 de persoane traficate au fost repatriate in Rep.
Moldova. De la inceputul anului curent 143 de fete au fost readuse in
tara dupa ce au ajuns sa fie traficate in Rusia, Turcia si Emiratele
Arabe.

cum le numeste redneck pe kyrve/tyrfe: "femei cu un comportament sexual libertin" ... :lol:
asta rupe tare de tat...
trebuie sa ramina in arhiva forumului...


redneck: cind am zis eu ca trebuie exterminate ?

eu am zis ca trebuie sa faca sapun din ele :D
SA NU LE MAI DEA VOIE SA SE INTOARCA IN MOLDOVA !
lasa-le sa ramina acolo :tu_mori:

tu crezi ca esti mai bun ca dinsele? sezind la caldura in fata monitorului, conectat la internet si indicind shine tre sa intre in tara shi shine nu pe baza unor idei personale construite asa pe neterminate de pe ishi pe colo... mai in scurt, eu cred ca habar nai despre shi graiesti, poate gresesc, dar iti spun asa poate nai sa mao shii ignorant, desi treaba ta desigur, eu nas vre sati schimb parerile, nu cumva, iti mai schimbi si viata dupa asta, oh...

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Ce nu intelegi tu, este ca majoritatea covarsitoare a acestor femei au fost traficate prin minciuna si obligate sa se prostitueze. Nu uita si de faptul ca fiind in sclavie aceste femei sunt supuse violentei fizice si perversiunilor sexuale
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Way,Redneck.... eu cred ca tu vorbesti din experientza personala..altfel nu se explika...Ti-am mai zis "insa creierul tau refuza sa inteleaga": ce zici tu era la inceput... de acord, atunci erau "ademenite""victimile trafikului uman"...pe urma a devenit deja o industrie si se duceau majoritatea constiente se perikol sau altele "de bunavoie si nesilite de nimeni" ...Daca tu vrei sa-mi spui ca 30.000 de femei sunt toate "victime cu comportament sexual libertin" comfirmi din nou ca esti ametzit..
si presupun ca crezi si in statisticile prin care !"10% din femeile Moldovei se prostituiaza peste hotare" LOL e clar cu tine...


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Victime ce necesita stringent asistenta medicala, psihologica si sociala. Iar culpabilitatea in primul rand este a Republicii "the failed state" Moldova, a guvernantilor care au creat un teren favorabil pentru aparitia traficului de femei, guvernanti care au tergiversat crearea unui cadru juridic bine pus la punct, astfel permitand amplificarea acestui fenomen, guvernanti care faciliteaza profitabil traficantii de carne vie. Pe ei trebuie sa-i combati!
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Aici itzi dau dreptate...situatzia dezastruoasa din Moldova a incurajat asemenea activitatzi...dar asta stie toata lumea...cred ca nu pleaca oamenii astia peste hotare din viatza prea buna....
Insa problema trafikului a cam disparut in ultimul timp si chiar n-ar mai fi asa o problema pe care guvernantii trebuie sa o combata...cum zici tu si nu prea cred ca au ei interes sa incurajeze prostitutzia...cum face aluzie tu...e exagerat....Situatzia s-a schimbat datorita in special experientzei acelor victime naive, care si-au dat seama ca e mare vrajeala oferte din astea"Cautam fete pentru lucru bine platit peste hotare...ca dansatoare sau pentru blowjob" LOL
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Victime ce necesita stringent asistenta medicala, psihologica si sociala.
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Vreau sa vad si eu, cum faci tu asistentza medikala la 30.000 de dame...pe ce baza materiala...si cum le integrezi in societate pe TOATE...
Las-te de proiectul asta VERDE..ca e failed din start...:)... ar fi mai realista solutzia aia cu legalizarea prostitutziei decat asa ceva...
Si ar trebui sa intervina in diskutzia asta altcineva sa-si exprime opinia...pentru ca noi vad ca avem idei fixe in cap si monopolizam diskutzia...
Plus ca un poll facut de moderatori, n-ar strica....sa vedem ce rezultate vor fi...Si ce sanse are proiectul lu' redneck...

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Pe de alta parte, ce nu intelegi tu, taliban oier pentru care drepturile omului sunt un mare mister, este ca persoanele carora le vrei sa interzici reintoarcerea in RM sunt cetateni ai acestui stat si o astfel de interdictie ar fi o violare grasa a Constitutiei RM si a Conventiei pentru Apararea Drepturilor Omului si a Libertatilor Fundamentale (semnata de RM).
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Nu-ti face griji pretenu' redneck, n-am pomenit eu de interdictzie de intrare in MD...mi-am spus doar parerea referitor la "criza demografika" de care ar avea parte Moldova...Sunt pur si simplu indignat de unele afirmatzii care le fac "strainii" despre noi...stii tu care moldovencele=curve si moldovenii=racketzi...si vad ca si tu le crezi...
Am tot dreptul sa-mi exprim parerea...cum ai si tu dreptul...asa ca EASY BUSY...baiatu'....

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taliban oier pentru care drepturile omului sunt un mare mister
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Prieteni iti sunt cei cu care pasti oile si curati la porci.
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Take it Easy, Cowboy...tu cand vorbesti de mine, de fapt vorbesti de tine, probabil...altfel nu vad nici o legatura...
Vezi daca continuatzi cu deliruri din astea..tu si Liutza...s-ar putea sa parasitzi forumul...deja avetzi prea multi dusmani ca sa va mai tolereze cineva...
Asa ca !atzi o vioara, ametzitule si cauta drepturile omului la echilibru...care pentru tine sunt un mister total...

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Ti-am explicat in mesajul precedent, nu mai insista caci devii jenant de prost.
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Fraiere...uita-te la secolXXI si o sa gasesti o declaratzie acolo... special pentru tine si icevis...LOL M-am prikalit doar de ametzeala voastra...Objective Complete...

Way,Redneck.... eu cred ca tu vorbesti din experientza personala..altfel nu se explika...

Ieftin.


Ti-am mai zis "insa creierul tau refuza sa inteleaga": ce zici tu era la inceput... de acord, atunci erau "ademenite""victimile trafikului uman"...pe urma a devenit deja o industrie si se duceau majoritatea constiente se perikol sau altele "de bunavoie si nesilite de nimeni"...

De unde stii? S-a facut vreun sondaj?
Conform datelor Organizatiei Internationale pentru Migratie, 82% din victimele traficului de fiinte umane nu stiau ca vor fi obligate sa se prostitueze. http://www.iom.md/index-ro.html


Daca tu vrei sa-mi spui ca 30.000 de femei sunt toate "victime cu comportament sexual libertin" comfirmi din nou ca esti ametzit..
si presupun ca crezi si in statisticile prin care !"10% din femeile Moldovei se prostituiaza peste hotare" LOL e clar cu tine...

De unde ai luat cifra de 30.000?


Aici itzi dau dreptate...situatzia dezastruoasa din Moldova a incurajat asemenea activitatzi...dar asta stie toata lumea...cred ca nu pleaca oamenii astia peste hotare din viatza prea buna....
Insa problema trafikului a cam disparut in ultimul timp si chiar n-ar mai fi asa o problema pe care guvernantii trebuie sa o combata...

Vorbesti prostii. Vezi rapoartele publicate de OIM si ONG-urile care se ocupa de acest fenomen.


cum zici tu si nu prea cred ca au ei interes sa incurajeze prostitutzia...cum face aluzie tu...e exagerat....Situatzia s-a schimbat datorita in special experientzei acelor victime naive, care si-au dat seama ca e mare vrajeala oferte din astea"Cautam fete pentru lucru bine platit peste hotare...ca dansatoare sau pentru blowjob" LOL

Vorbeam de functionarii de stat care sunt complici cu traficantii. Ai auzit de coruptie?


Vreau sa vad si eu, cum faci tu asistentza medikala la 30.000 de dame...pe ce baza materiala...si cum le integrezi in societate pe TOATE...
Las-te de proiectul asta VERDE..ca e failed din start......

Vezi de exemplu http://www.iom.md/reintegration-ro.html sau http://www.iom.md/ct_rehab-ro.html
Si inca o data te intreb de unde ai luat cifra de 30.000?


ar fi mai realista solutzia aia cu legalizarea prostitutziei decat asa ceva...

Explica, te rog, cum legalizarea prostitutiei ar ajuta victimele traficului.


Si ar trebui sa intervina in diskutzia asta altcineva sa-si exprime opinia...pentru ca noi vad ca avem idei fixe in cap si monopolizam diskutzia...

Nu, fascistoidule, tu ai idei fixe: interdictie si sterilizare.


Plus ca un poll facut de moderatori, n-ar strica....sa vedem ce rezultate vor fi...Si ce sanse are proiectul lu' redneck...

N-ai decat sa faci un sondaj, dar crezi ca utilizatorii forumului moldova.net reprezinta un esantion reprezentativ? Daca vrei iti expplic ce inseamna, ignorantule. Si dupa cum ti-am spus, tu ai o idee fixa cu sondajele.


Nu-ti face griji pretenu' redneck, n-am pomenit eu de interdictzie de intrare in MD...

Ba ai pomenit, la fel ai propus si sterilizarea.


mi-am spus doar parerea referitor la "criza demografika" de care ar avea parte Moldova...

Ce intelegi tu prin "criza demografica" si de ce ar apare asa ceva in RM daca s-ar reintoarce in tara victimele traficului.


Sunt pur si simplu indignat de unele afirmatzii care le fac "strainii" despre noi...stii tu care moldovencele=[cenzurat] si moldovenii=racketzi...si vad ca si tu le crezi...

Foarte frumos, insa iti indrepti "indignarea" in directie gresita.


Am tot dreptul sa-mi exprim parerea...cum ai si tu dreptul...asa ca EASY BUSY...baiatu'....

Nu ti-am interzis sa-ti exprimi parerea. Doar ti-am demontat argumentele, ti-am demascat minciunile si am afirmat ca ceea ce propui tu (interdictia de a reveni in tara si sterilizare) sunt propuneri de sorginte fasciste.


Take it Easy, Cowboy...tu cand vorbesti de mine, de fapt vorbesti de tine, probabil...altfel nu vad nici o legatura...

Nu, eu cand discut cu tine, imi dau bine seama cu cine discut: un ignorant si un fascist.


Vezi daca continuatzi cu deliruri din astea..tu si Liutza...s-ar putea sa parasitzi forumul...deja avetzi prea multi dusmani ca sa va mai tolereze cineva...

In lipsa de argumente, ameninti. Bravo sovieticus! Oare ce zic moderatorii de faptul ca le-ai preluat atributiile?


Asa ca !atzi o vioara, ametzitule si cauta drepturile omului la echilibru...care pentru tine sunt un mister total...

Esti plictisitor de repetitiv.


Fraiere...uita-te la secolXXI si o sa gasesti o declaratzie acolo... special pentru tine si icevis...LOL M-am prikalit doar de ametzeala voastra...Objective Complete...

Declaratia unde ai recunoscut ca ai mintit. Astept scuzele publice.

tu crezi ca esti mai bun ca dinsele? sezind la caldura in fata monitorului, conectat la internet si indicind shine tre sa intre in tara shi shine nu pe baza unor idei personale construite asa pe neterminate de pe ishi pe colo... mai in scurt, eu cred ca habar nai despre shi graiesti, poate gresesc, dar iti spun asa poate nai sa mao shii ignorant, desi treaba ta desigur, eu nas vre sati schimb parerile, nu cumva, iti mai schimbi si viata dupa asta, oh...


Intr-adevar si saracia e de vina... Dar unde e demnitatea... Ele in loc sa se ocupe cu agricultura la tara si sa supravietuiasca asa cum au facut-o stramosii nostri secole la rind (ca nu dau turcii sau tatarii peste noi, nu e razboi, e pace si poti avea un trai indestulat de bogatiile care ni le ofera noua pamintul)... da ele nu... ele pleaca din satul natal... vor peripetii... vor sa faca bani... nu vor sa ingrijeasca de animale, nu vor sa mulga vaca, nu vor sa culeaga roadele, nu vor sa lucreze pamintul... DE BINE CE LE ESTE ELE SE LASA CORUPTE SI DUSE IN STRAINATATI... Aduceti-va aminte pe vremuri razboaie, maceluri, violuri, turcii, invazii a tatarilor etc...
ACUMA SA TRAIESTI LA SAT IN PACE SI AER CURAT SI SA LUCREZI PAMINTUL E O BINECUVINTARE...
da ele nuuuuuuuu... ele vor la oras... ele vor altfel de viata...
in cele din urma ajung tyrfe...
RUSOII DE PE STRADA STIU CA ELE DAU SI INCA DAU PE GRATIS... E CEL MAI IEFTIN MOD SA SI-O PUNA CU moldovencile noastre tsarance proaste...
Dar acuma si granitele se deschid. S-o destramat uniunea sovietica... poti circula mai usor peste hotare... fetele se satura de viata de la sat si de muls vaca... AJUNG TYRFE PRIN ITALII SI GRECII...

SI ASTA NU E DIN ANUL '1991
ASTA E CEA MAI VECHE PROFESIE A OMENIRII !

PE MINE MA ENERVEAZA ELE CA-MI FAC TARA DE RUSINE
NU LE LUA APARAREA CA MA IAU SI DE CAPUL TAU.

Conform datelor Organizatiei Internationale pentru Migratie, 82% din victimele traficului de fiinte umane nu stiau ca vor fi obligate sa se prostitueze. http://www.iom.md/index-ro.html

ce sa caute fete tinere de 14-18 ani prin strainatati?
IACA EU IS NEVOIT SA STRIG ACUMA IN GURA MARE: FETELOR DE 14-18 ANI CARE N-AVETI IDEE CE SE INTIMPLA IN LUME, RAMINETI IN MOLDOVA SI NU CAUTATI VOI "PERIPETII" IN STRAINATATI CA NU TREBUITI NIMANUI... adica trebuiti dar in calitate de tyrfe.

Haide sa lipim placate cu inscriptiile astea in toate satele moldovei si or sa ramina tzarancutzele la muls vaca dar nu la plecat peste hotare sa se prostitueze.

Cit de proaste crezi tu ca trebuie sa fie fetele tinere intre 14-18 ani sa nu stie ca pentru asta e nevoie de ele "acolo in strainatate" - sa fie vindute si silite sa se prostitueze.

APU IACA ORGANIZATIA ASTA A VOASTRA CU ASTA AR TREBUI SA SE OCUPE - SA LIPEASCA AFISE IN TOATE SATELE MOLDOVEI CA NU CUMVA SA INDRAZNEASCA FETELE "tinere si proaste de 14-18 ani" sa zica ca "eu n-am stiut unde ma duc, am fost amagita"
Si sa nu incerce dupa asta s-o faca pe neznaika "eu n-am stiut unde ma duc" caci le amintim de placatele lipite in toate satele despre "NU FITI TYRFE CACI TYRFE O SA FITI DACA VA LASATI AMAGITE SI DUSE IN STRAINATATI"...

Cind incepe organizatia asta a voastra lipirea afiselor pe cladirile mai importante a tuturor satelor din Moldova ? Ca sa stie si fetele proaste de 14-18 ani ca vina va fi a lor daca vor deveni tyrfe?
Sau primiti bani degeaba si numai de vorbe sinteti in stare ?

Conform datelor Organizatiei Internationale pentru Migratie, 82% din victimele traficului de fiinte umane nu stiau ca vor fi obligate sa se prostitueze. http://www.iom.md/index-ro.html

ce sa caute fete tinere de 14-18 ani prin strainatati?
IACA EU IS NEVOIT SA STRIG ACUMA IN GURA MARE: FETELOR DE 14-18 ANI CARE N-AVETI IDEE CE SE INTIMPLA IN LUME, RAMINETI IN MOLDOVA SI NU CAUTATI VOI "PERIPETII" IN STRAINATATI CA NU TREBUITI NIMANUI... adica trebuiti dar in calitate de tyrfe.


Cred ca nu ai citi nici un raport dintre cele recomandate, Raducu, shi nici nu ai cautat sa te informezi din alte surse. Altfel, ai fi aflat cum functzioneaza retzelele de trafic uman shi cum ajung femei shi copii (shi uneori chiar shi barbatzi) sa fie sclavi in strainatate ( shi nu e vorba numai de prostitutzie, ci shi de traficul de organe, daca nu shtiai - ceva cel putzin la fel de odios). Interesant ca ziarele sunt pline de articole in care victimele povestesc despre ce li s-a intamplat (shi de cele mai multe ori e vorba de implicarea unor rude in sechestrarea shi vinderea lor), dar de unde sa shtii tu!.. :roll: Ca shi in cazul amicului tau "worsedayz", e clar ca nici tu nu citeeshti presa...

Intr-adevar si saracia e de vina... Dar unde e demnitatea... Ele in loc sa se ocupe cu agricultura la tara si sa supravietuiasca asa cum au facut-o stramosii nostri secole la rind (ca nu dau turcii sau tatarii peste noi, nu e razboi, e pace si poti avea un trai indestulat de bogatiile care ni le ofera noua pamintul)... da ele nu... ele pleaca din satul natal... vor peripetii... vor sa faca bani... nu vor sa ingrijeasca de animale, nu vor sa mulga vaca, nu vor sa culeaga roadele, nu vor sa lucreze pamintul... DE BINE CE LE ESTE ELE SE LASA CORUPTE SI DUSE IN STRAINATATI... Aduceti-va aminte pe vremuri razboaie, maceluri, violuri, turcii, invazii a tatarilor etc...
ACUMA SA TRAIESTI LA SAT IN PACE SI AER CURAT SI SA LUCREZI PAMINTUL E O BINECUVINTARE...

Ce mentalitate de feodal! Deci daca o persoana s-a nascut la tara acolo trebuie sa ramana, nu-i asa kolhoznice?


da ele nuuuuuuuu... ele vor la oras... ele vor altfel de viata...
in cele din urma ajung tyrfe...

Zi-mi, Midrigan, parintii tai s-au nascut la tara sau in oras? Dar buneii?


RUSOII DE PE STRADA STIU CA ELE DAU SI INCA DAU PE GRATIS... E CEL MAI IEFTIN MOD SA SI-O PUNA CU moldovencile noastre tsarance proaste...
Dar acuma si granitele se deschid. S-o destramat uniunea sovietica... poti circula mai usor peste hotare... fetele se satura de viata de la sat si de muls vaca... AJUNG TYRFE PRIN ITALII SI GRECII...

SI ASTA NU E DIN ANUL '1991
ASTA E CEA MAI VECHE PROFESIE A OMENIRII !

PE MINE MA ENERVEAZA ELE CA-MI FAC TARA DE RUSINE
NU LE LUA APARAREA CA MA IAU SI DE CAPUL TAU.
Incoerenta si mojicie ajunse la paroxism.

Ce mentalitate de feodal! Deci daca o persoana s-a nascut la tara acolo trebuie sa ramana, nu-i asa kolhoznice?

daca e sa aleaga intre prostitutie si agricultura, eu i-as sfatui sa ramina la tara si sa lucreze pamintul, pedofilule...

Ce mentalitate de feodal! Deci daca o persoana s-a nascut la tara acolo trebuie sa ramana, nu-i asa kolhoznice?

daca e sa aleaga intre prostitutie si agricultura, eu i-as sfatui sa ramina la tara si sa lucreze pamintul, pedofilule...

Esti un cretin sinistru. Ti-am mai spus ca 82% din victimele traficului nu stiau ca vor fi obligate sa se prostitueze. In alta ordine de idei, cata populatie in opinia ta ar trebui sa fie antrenata in agricultura?

Si nu mi-ai raspuns la cealalta intrebare.

Domnule nestimat ametzit redneck...va rog sa explicati iuzverilor mdnet cum solutzionatzi d-voastra...aceasta grava problema demografika a MD..
Din cele spuse pan' acum nu prea am intzeles Whatz ya POINT?
Explikane si noua...

Nimeni n-a pomenit de exterminare si interdictzie...cum ai fakut aluzie tu..
Totzi sunt doar de parere ca aceste "viktime cu comportament sexual libertin" ar fi bine sa nu se intoarca in MD..si atat...

Te rog sa nu te mai dai gratuit avokatul folkloristelor..pentru ca faci impresia ca vorbesti din proprie experientza...
Nu mai avem nevoie pe langa toate problemele care le are MD...sa mai fie si problema asta "demografika" citeste tot topikul din forum ca sa intzlegi despre ce este vorba...

Ti-am mai spus ca 82% din victimele traficului nu stiau ca vor fi obligate sa se prostitueze.

ce sa caute fete tinere de 14-18 ani prin strainatati?
IACA EU IS NEVOIT SA STRIG ACUMA IN GURA MARE: FETELOR DE 14-18 ANI CARE N-AVETI IDEE CE SE INTIMPLA IN LUME, RAMINETI IN MOLDOVA SI NU CAUTATI VOI "PERIPETII" IN STRAINATATI CA NU TREBUITI NIMANUI... adica trebuiti dar in calitate de tyrfe.

Haide sa lipim placate cu inscriptiile astea in toate satele moldovei si or sa ramina tzarancutzele la muls vaca dar nu la plecat peste hotare sa se prostitueze.

Cit de proaste crezi tu ca trebuie sa fie fetele tinere intre 14-18 ani sa nu stie ca pentru asta e nevoie de ele "acolo in strainatate" - sa fie vindute si silite sa se prostitueze.

APU IACA ORGANIZATIA ASTA A VOASTRA CU ASTA AR TREBUI SA SE OCUPE - SA LIPEASCA AFISE IN TOATE SATELE MOLDOVEI CA NU CUMVA SA INDRAZNEASCA FETELE "tinere si proaste de 14-18 ani" sa zica ca "eu n-am stiut unde ma duc, am fost amagita"
Si sa nu incerce dupa asta s-o faca pe neznaika "eu n-am stiut unde ma duc" caci le amintim de placatele lipite in toate satele despre "NU FITI TYRFE CACI TYRFE O SA FITI DACA VA LASATI AMAGITE SI DUSE IN STRAINATATI"...

Cind incepe organizatia asta a voastra lipirea afiselor pe cladirile mai importante a tuturor satelor din Moldova ? Ca sa stie si fetele proaste de 14-18 ani ca vina va fi a lor daca vor deveni tyrfe?
Sau primiti bani degeaba si numai de vorbe sinteti in stare ?

Domnule nestimat ametzit redneck...va rog sa explicati iuzverilor mdnet cum solutzionatzi d-voastra...aceasta grava problema demografika a MD..
Din cele spuse pan' acum nu prea am intzeles Whatz ya POINT?
Explikane si noua...
Eu si Lia ti-am explicat de cateva ori. De asemenea, ti-am recomandat sa citesti rapoartele OIM.

Nimeni n-a pomenit de exterminare si interdictzie...cum ai fakut aluzie tu..
Iarasi minti cu nerusinare. Citeste-ti mesajele din acest forum. Iar mesajele lui Midrigan unde scria "Moarte curvelor" au fost sterse de moderatori.

Totzi sunt doar de parere ca aceste "viktime cu comportament sexual libertin" ar fi bine sa nu se intoarca in MD..si atat...
Care toti? Doar tu si Radu Midrigan.

Nu mai avem nevoie pe langa toate problemele care le are MD...sa mai fie si problema asta "demografika" citeste tot topikul din forum ca sa intzlegi despre ce este vorba...
Inca o data te intreb, in ce consta problema/criza "demografica" daca in RM se vor reintoarce victimele traficului cu fiinte umane.

APU IACA ORGANIZATIA ASTA A VOASTRA CU ASTA AR TREBUI SA SE OCUPE - SA LIPEASCA AFISE IN TOATE SATELE MOLDOVEI CA NU CUMVA SA INDRAZNEASCA FETELE "tinere si proaste de 14-18 ani" sa zica ca "eu n-am stiut unde ma duc, am fost amagita"
Si sa nu incerce dupa asta s-o faca pe neznaika "eu n-am stiut unde ma duc" caci le amintim de placatele lipite in toate satele despre "NU FITI TYRFE CACI TYRFE O SA FITI DACA VA LASATI AMAGITE SI DUSE IN STRAINATATI"...

Cind incepe organizatia asta a voastra lipirea afiselor pe cladirile mai importante a tuturor satelor din Moldova ? Ca sa stie si fetele proaste de 14-18 ani ca vina va fi a lor daca vor deveni tyrfe?
Sau primiti bani degeaba si numai de vorbe sinteti in stare ?

Citeste atent si de cateva ori rapoartele prezentate de Organizatia Internationala pentru Migratie, ca sa vezi ce se face si ce trebuie de facut pentru a combate traficul cu fiinte umane si consecintele sale. http://www.iom.md/index-ro.html

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/0603/ijge/gj07.htm

Preventing Victimization in Moldova
By Jana Costachi, Director
The Center for Prevention of Trafficking in Women

A nongovernmental organization works to prevent trafficking and protect potential victims in a country that has become one of the greatest sources of women trafficked to the brothels of Europe.

Moldova is at present one of the leading exporters of human beings to Western Europe. This phenomenon started growing in Moldova in 1994-1995, when a wave of illegal emigration began because of the economic crisis that beset the nation. Just as in other formerly communist states, the demise of the Soviet Union brought inflation, declines in production, increasing unemployment, and a reduction of expenditures for the social sphere.

All of these trends had a disastrous impact on migration for Moldova. Illegal emigration, sometimes considered the only solution against poverty, became a usual and tolerated phenomenon. According to a report by the United Nations Development Program for 2000, the number of Moldovan citizens who had left the country temporarily or permanently varied between 600,000 and 1,000,000. Because many of them are in an illegal status abroad, they can become victims to various criminal networks, including human traffickers.

We don't know the exact number of women who have left the country in search of a way to support themselves or their families. We do know that women represent 70 percent of the emigrants from Moldova. The average age of the women who have left is between 18 and 45. Many of them work in the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Italy, Turkey, Greece, and Portugal. Others have gone to the Middle East or Asia, but neither official nor unofficial sources can provide a precise figure on the number of our girls who end up in the brothels and casinos of Istanbul, Athens, or Kosovo.

Launched in February 2001, the Center for the Prevention of Trafficking in Women (CPTW), located in our capital Chisinau, has been created as an answer to this growing problem. CPTW is a project administered by the Association of Women Lawyers, a local nongovernmental organization, and is implemented under the aegis of the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) in Moldova. The main donors to this project are the U.S. State Department through the U.S. Embassy in Moldova and the Swedish organization World Childhood Foundation. They fund an annual budget of $123,000, which allows us to support a nine-person staff involved in our programs.

In 2002, CPTW launched its first local branches in the districts of Ungheni and Balti. These border regions are identified as having a high risk of trafficking in human beings.

Our goal is simple. We want to keep Moldovan women and girls out of the brothels of the world. We're trying to do this through education, prevention, and prosecutorial efforts.

We are working to create an efficient infrastructure for preventing and prosecuting trafficking in human beings. We hope to help strengthen the judicial system's capacity in order to work toward a goal of reducing human trafficking.

CPTW is engaged in informing vulnerable groups of teenagers about the risks and methods of human trafficking. In doing so, we also hope to develop among minors a stronger understanding of the rule of law and their rights under the law in order that they may be in a better position to protect themselves against trafficking.

Our informational and educational activities are not directed solely toward youth. We provide free assistance for anyone in need of information about human trafficking, and we are also working to improve the legal knowledge and practices among national law enforcement bodies in applying international and national anti-trafficking laws and norms.

CPTW is also working with law enforcement in the development of human trafficking prevention and prosecution programs. Civil society organizations are also involved helping to improve victims' access to justice and developing other counter-trafficking activities.

CPTW is laying the groundwork for the creation of a comprehensive anti-trafficking response by building an active database of multi-lateral agencies and their efforts to prevent human trafficking. The efforts catalogued in this database range from government, inter-governmental (IGO) and nongovernmental (NGO) responses to a catalog of CPTW's current materials, promotions, events, and partners. This data is readily available and is accessed via the CPTW website: www.antitraffic.md From this site, anyone interested in understanding or contributing to mechanisms to prevent human trafficking can access current information, materials, and partners. The local and national government, international community, nongovernmental community, general public, and potential victims all benefit from the construction of a free and central information clearinghouse.

With the use of a variety of media campaigns across Moldova, CPTW focuses attention on the problem of human trafficking and emphasizes the need for effective prevention and prosecution. Our award-winning weekly radio program, TV programs, newspaper articles, advertisements, and permanent billboards attract attention to the many dangers of human trafficking. Broadly distributed and free of charge, this information helps to nurture a heightened awareness about the personal and social risks human trafficking poses to all members of the population. Moldavan society as a whole is the target audience because the problem of human trafficking affects such a wide segment of the population.

Potential victims are targeted in a more specific way with provocative and discriminating information campaigns. During two years of its activity, CPTW has blanketed the country with more than 231 radio programs, nine television documentaries produced and broadcast through 15 national and local channels, 100 news articles, billboards, and editorials across Moldova's media spectrum.

Teenagers are most vulnerable to the false promises of opportunity abroad made by potential traffickers. CPTW targets them with awareness campaigns introduced mainly in rural schools. CPTW has trained approximately 100 youth volunteers from all districts across Moldova to help implement these programs. The volunteers, supervised by members of the project team, conduct seminars aimed at the prevention of human trafficking. Our purpose is not only to educate about the dangers of human trafficking, but also to help teens understand the law and make them capable to protect themselves against violation of their rights.

CPTW also identifies cases of abuse and violations of children's rights in order to provide social and legal assistance to children from abusive environments who are especially attractive potential victims to traffickers. CPTW has educated more than 7,000 teenagers through 400 seminars in all districts of Moldova. Using young adults to educate the children is proving very successful. By promoting a program about not only the physical and psychological dangers of human trafficking, but also the legal and social aspects of this phenomenon, the most vulnerable populations are informed about the full range of dangers associated with human trafficking.

Volunteers are also involved in the dissemination of informative materials. More than 100,000 copies of educational brochures and leaflets, newsletters, and magazines produced by the center during its two years of activity have been distributed in schools, transit stations, on streets, and to strategic partners.

CPTW supports and operates three telephone information hotlines in Chisinau, Ungheni, and Balti. The hotlines provide information on securing legal employment and migration, as well as how to receive CPTW's free social and legal assistance. The hotlines are direct links to people with immediate concerns and fears about human trafficking. They also can help potential victims at any stage in their decision to emigrate or with assistance upon return. Often the hotlines also are a vital link to people with information about immediate trafficking activity. Finally, the hotlines can assist families and friends in their attempts to locate their loved ones who may have disappeared.

Since February 2001, CPTW's hotline operators have helped more than 3,000 persons. Analysis of these cases tells us that people from different social categories become victims of trafficking, but most of them come from poor families with living standards below the poverty line. These are people who have been victims of abuse in their living environment, who have undergone stress and moral traumas, some of them having been abandoned by their parents or by society. The lack of specialized social services for these categories of girls is a factor in their decision to leave the country.

As part of our stated goal to prevent and prosecute human trafficking, CPTW works with all areas of the national and international community to develop law enforcement training programs based on the latest information and techniques. CPTW regularly provides specialized training modules for police, border guards, prosecutors, judges, and other officials. CPTW has increased the professional awareness about anti-trafficking programs, services, and procedures to 250 officials. By training and educating the law enforcement and juridical officials and actors, prevention and prosecution of human trafficking receives much needed attention. These organizations can help promote a broader sense of security across society.

Additionally, CPTW works with returning and repatriated victims to secure proper documents and works with prosecutors who are handling their cases. Returning and repatriated victims can receive free assistance in navigating an often confusing and difficult process to gain new documents and identity papers. CPTW has assisted 140 victims of trafficking with new documents and identity papers.

In April 2003, CPTW started to represent victims of trafficking, including minors, in civil lawsuits and criminal trials. Professional lawyers represent victims in civil lawsuits -- such as divorce, property loss, and restoration of maternal rights -- by representing their interests in a court of law and in other relevant domains. In criminal trials, CPTW is advocating for the legal interests of victims and injured parties, including minors (with their appointed social assistant), for the entire length of the criminal process.

Based on experience gained during the process of representation of victims in trials, CPTW lawyers are working on development and expansion of national standards of protection and security of injured parties, victims, and witnesses during the course of the criminal trial.

As part of this effort, we will be pushing for the development of national standards for victim and witness protection during human trafficking trials, and the establishment of temporary shelters for vulnerable parties until verdicts are delivered or judicial action is otherwise completed.

In order to ensure the success of the project and the efficiency of its activities, CPTW needs to have good communications with all actors involved in counter-trafficking. CPTW has memorandums of understanding with the most active institutions, such as the national Service of Migration, Department of Social Assistance of the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection, Division for Combating the Organized Crime of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Department of Youth and Sport from the Ministry of Education, Department of Information Technologies, Border Police Control, Council of Ungheni district, and the International Organization for Migration. In addition, CPTW established fruitful collaboration with representatives of law enforcement institutions, local NGOs working in the field, and national and local media companies.

The CPTW has significant expertise implementing preventive measures against trafficking in women and children. The results achieved by CPTW during its first two years of activity prove that this independent entity has the capacity to manage and implement activities in prevention, victims' rehabilitation, and prosecution of cases of trafficking. By consolidating and expanding the current prevention, prosecution, and rehabilitation components of CPTW's work, vulnerable groups, women, and children are empowered to gain the knowledge they lack to prevent exploitation by traffickers and live in a secure environment.

Raportul in l.rusa http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/0603/ijgr/gj07.htm

U.S. Embassy Supports
Counter Trafficking
in Moldova

The Center for Prevention of Trafficking in Women (CPTW) has been a leader in the fight against trafficking in Moldova since February 2001. The center has helped hundreds of trafficking victims and potential victims.

The State Department, through the U.S. embassy in Chisinau, started funding the center in February 2001 with a grant of $60,000. In the first year, the CPTW focused its activity on prevention through an effective media campaign, utilizing radio, television, billboards, and newspapers to publicize its anti-trafficking message. The Center has served also as an effective mediator between victims of trafficking or their families and the Ministry of the Interior.

A second grant from the Department of State in March 2002 provided another $76,000 in support for the center in Chisinau and one regional branch office in Ungheni, including a regional telephone hot line. The center provides emergency assistance to potential or trafficked victims; psychological and legal advice to victims; law enforcement training for the local police, prosecutors, judges, border guards, customs officials, and volunteers.

For the third year of activity, April 2003-April 2004, the Department of State contributes $100,000 to fund the center, with one existing branch and two additional planned branches. The center will offer free legal assistance to victims of trafficking in civil and criminal cases and provide witness protection in collaboration with the Ministry of Interior and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.

U.S. Embassy, Chisinau

Inca o data te intreb, in ce consta problema/criza "demografica" daca in RM se vor reintoarce victimele traficului cu fiinte umane.

Acele zeci de mii de tyrfe vor mai da nastere altor zeci de mii sau sute de mii de pui de tyrfe aici in Moldova. Ne vom alege cu inca niste zeci de mii de redneci pe capul nostru :tu_mori:

Inca o data te intreb, in ce consta problema/criza "demografica" daca in RM se vor reintoarce victimele traficului cu fiinte umane.

Acele zeci de mii de tyrfe vor mai da nastere altor zeci de mii sau sute de mii de pui de tyrfe aici in Moldova. Ne vom alege cu inca niste zeci de mii de redneci pe capul nostru :tu_mori:
Esti o bovina incaltata. Folosind o logica similara, faptul ca esti un retardat ar implica faptul ca si parintii tai sufera de boli mintale, nu-i asa?

Redneck-ule, pui de tyrfa moscala ce esti, nu te abate de la tema...
Tu vreai sa le dai drumul acelor zeci de mii de tyrfe inapoi in moldova si sa mai nasca alte sute de mii de redneci ?
Du-te si te impusca, vad ca ai fost si tu traficat... le sygi pyla americoshilor :tu_mori:

Ti-am mai spus Midrigan, limbajul te defineste: un badaran fara leac.

concluzia pe care si-o face oricine despre redneck: un pedofil care syge printre altele pyla la americoshi
esti un pui de tyrfa moscala :tu_mori:

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BetterDayz a scris:
Nimeni n-a pomenit de exterminare si interdictzie...cum ai fakut aluzie tu..

Iarasi minti cu nerusinare. Citeste-ti mesajele din acest forum. Iar mesajele lui Midrigan unde scria "Moarte curvelor" au fost sterse de moderatori.
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Da am zis ca ar fi bine sa existe o interdiktzie pentru dame de intrare in MD...si nu vad nimik iesit din comun...dar unde am pomenit eu de exterminare, maltratare si aplikatzii sado-maso, ca sa nu revenim iarashi la "dom'le nesimtzit ametzit"....
Pentru ce a zis domnul Radu Midrigan el raspunde...asa ca nu inkurka lucrurile..si iesi odata din paranoia....

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Totzi sunt doar de parere ca aceste "viktime cu comportament sexual libertin" ar fi bine sa nu se intoarca in MD..si atat...

Care toti? Doar tu si Radu Midrigan.
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Fa un poll, pretene....sa vezi ce cred altzii...si o sa te "surprinda" rezultatele...
Pe bune yo am impresia ca tu ai ceva un interes cu kyrvele astea...Esti in zodia Peshtelui sau ce? :)


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Nu mai avem nevoie pe langa toate problemele care le are MD...sa mai fie si problema asta "demografika" citeste tot topikul din forum ca sa intzlegi despre ce este vorba...

Inca o data te intreb, in ce consta problema/criza "demografica" daca in RM se vor reintoarce victimele traficului cu fiinte umane.
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100.000 de victime ale traficului cu fiinte umane>>>200 sau 300 de mii de copii bolnavi fizik si psihik, handikapuri...i tak dalee, nu crede ca o sa iasa totzi ca tine.. poetzi...
Ar fi o mare problema integrarea sociala a astora...Si ne ajunge cate probleme are MD...

Da am zis ca ar fi bine sa existe o interdiktzie pentru dame de intrare in MD...si nu vad nimik iesit din comun...
Fascistoidule, ti-am explicat ca ceea ce propui tu contravine Conventiei Europene a Drepturilor Omului, ca si "sterilizarea", o alta propunere la fel de extremista.

dar unde am pomenit eu de exterminare, maltratare si aplikatzii sado-maso, ca sa nu revenim iarashi la "dom'le nesimtzit ametzit"....
Pentru ce a zis domnul Radu Midrigan el raspunde...asa ca nu inkurka lucrurile..si iesi odata din paranoia....
Radu midrigan domn? Umor involuntar.


Fa un poll, pretene....sa vezi ce cred altzii...si o sa te "surprinda" rezultatele...
Pe bune yo am impresia ca tu ai ceva un interes cu kyrvele astea...Esti in zodia Peshtelui sau ce? :)
Pana una alta doar tu si midrigan ati propus metode fasciste.

100.000 de victime ale traficului cu fiinte umane>>>200 sau 300 de mii de copii bolnavi fizik si psihik, handikapuri...i tak dalee, nu crede ca o sa iasa totzi ca tine.. poetzi...
Ar fi o mare problema integrarea sociala a astora...Si ne ajunge cate probleme are MD...
De unde ai luat ca o victima a traficului va naste obligatoriu copii bolnavi fizic si psihic? Pe de alta parte, oare un copil handicapat nu are si el dreptul la viata, bovina nazista ce esti?

Nu exista nici o cifra concreta sau macar aproximativa, nici un variaj statistic cat de apropiat de realiatate, in privinta cati moldoveni lucreaza in strainatate... cifrile de 600mii sau altele sant din pod, ear varianta cu 70% de fimei din tot numarul si 200 mii prostituate(mai degraba proaste :P ) traficate, este o prostie fara o cea mai mica argumentare,,, Orce fond doreste sa-si creeze de lucru p-u o inportanta mai mare....si o finantare mai groasa.. :lol:
Toata miscarea aceasta dimografica este atat de DISPERSATă si variata in miscari si intoarceri, incat este greu de controlat măcar statistic,,, :wtf:
-------------------- Petntru o aplanare a situaţiei este nevoe de un stat activ si puternic, nu de fonduri de doi bani(le stiu din practica de lucru :tu_mori: ) si ajutor "din toata inima" de unchii buni din ICCIDENT, CARE IN MAREA LOR MAJORITATE NICI NAU IDEE CE SE INTîMPLA AICI, si inserca sa corecteZe totul de la coada :zzz: ,, cînd totul se incepe de la cap si buzunar.. :ciupos:
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In pruvinta la mult asteptata intoarcere a curvelor sfredelate peste hotare(cele din ţara sînt bune - facînduşi datoriea de "fumee" :wink: ),, problema nui una demografica(ca numai sînt ele chear tare multe la numarul total) sau genetic(copii majoritatea le fac pe solul natal, ear boli avem si asa), ci mai degraba culturala... :x Aceasta masa "cu ingrasaminte" va aduce numai incultura degradabila(înmulţindo pe cea locala) si o stare de spirit de sclav,,, :cry:
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Ei dar sa speram :o ca vom dejera pana la urma si asta ca si navalirile tataro-turce si porcizmul sklavin,,, :ciupos:
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SALUTARI!

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In pruvinta la mult asteptata intoarcere a [cenzurat] sfredelate peste hotare(cele din ţara sînt bune - facînduşi datoriea de "fumee" ),, problema nui una demografica(ca numai sînt ele chear tare multe la numarul total) sau genetic(copii majoritatea le fac pe solul natal, ear boli avem si asa), ci mai degraba culturala... Aceasta masa "cu ingrasaminte" va aduce numai incultura degradabila(înmulţindo pe cea locala) si o stare de spirit de sclav,,,
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http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2004/10/C28FAD55-44C3-4FCC-B3DC-73E93E4D8119.html

Moldova: Young Women From Rural Areas Vulnerable To Human Trafficking
By Eugen Tomiuc

A classified ad in a Moldovan newspaper offering work abroad

Tens of thousands of Moldovan women are estimated to have fallen victim to human trafficking. Most victims come from rural areas, where economic hardships and ignorance turn young girls into easy prey for traffickers. RFE/RL spoke with nongovernmental organizations and government officials about measures in place to help those who have fallen victim to such trafficking, and to curb future abuses.


Chisinau, 6 October 2004 (RFE/RL) -- "I was sold for $2,000. That's how much they asked for me. Once they sold us somewhere, we would not go back. They sold us for good."

Alina, a petite 23-year-old, was born in a village in central Moldova. She says she wanted to earn money working as a waitress in Turkey during the summer so that she could afford to go to school in Chisinau.

Alina -- who asked that her real name not be used -- was lured with promises of a job in a bar in Turkey. The traffickers took care of her passport and visa -- every document needed. Two days later, she says, she was in Istanbul."When we would not have enough clients, they would beat us up and lock us up until 9. When I did not want to work, they kept me locked up for a week and beat me."

But Alina told RFE/RL that she ended up being a prisoner forced to have sex with tourists in a hotel near Istanbul.

"During the day, we were locked on the third floor of a house with iron bars on the doors and windows. We did not have a TV or a phone. It was very strict. At night, they would take us to a hotel, which had guards and a tall fence around it, so we could not get out. There were people guarding us around the clock," Alina said.

Twenty-two-year-old Angela is a young woman from a poor family in northern Moldova. She is tall and very thin and is always staring at the floor. Angela says she wanted to visit a cousin in Italy who she thought could help her get a job there. But in Chisinau, she contacted the wrong kind of people, hoping they could help her get to Italy cheaply.

Angela ended up in the United Arab Emirates, via Odesa. Once there, she says she was beaten by Moldovan and Ukrainian pimps and forced to work as a prostitute under the threat of death before being sold to other traffickers.

"I did not want to go to work as a prostitute. I started crying and said I wanted to go back home, and I did not want to work. They told me, 'If you don't work, you'll end up dead and buried in sand in the desert.' I got scared, and I went with them. From 9 p.m. to 3 a.m., we had to work in a disco. All day long, we were locked up in a house. When we would not have enough clients, they would beat us up and lock us up until 9. When I did not want to work, they kept me locked up for a week and beat me. I got really scared, and I tried to swallow pills to make them get me out of the house [to a hospital]. But they simply sold me in another city," Angela said.

Alina also says she was beaten. She told RFE/RL how she was treated by traffickers in Turkey.

"The boss did not beat us himself, but his driver did. I had a period when I felt very sick. I felt I couldn't even walk, and I was trying to make him understand that, 'Please, I cannot. Understand me. I cannot work.' But he didn't care, and he hit me. He wouldn't pay attention and would beat us, [telling us,] 'Move, do the job,' and that was it," Alina said.

Ion Vizdoga is a lawyer who heads the Center for the Prevention of Human Trafficking, a nongovernmental organization in Moldova. He says traffickers often use violence to force into prostitution girls who have left the country legally, through employment agencies.

"Those girls who fall prey [to traffickers] are beaten, blackmailed.... In case they refuse to obey, they are also pressured psychologically. Traffickers gather 10 to 15 girls, and one of them is publicly beaten up in front of the others. There were also cases when girls were shot or tortured," Vizdoga said.

Both Angela and Alina come from rural Moldova, the poorest parts of arguably the poorest country in Europe. The average income in Moldova is estimated to be under $100. But such trafficking in women also afflicts other former communist countries, especially Ukraine, Russia, Romania, and Bulgaria.

There is no firm information about how many Moldovan women have been trafficked. But Vizdoga says statistics from the International Organization for Migration (IOM) show that 70 percent of the 1,300 women repatriated over the past two years come from rural areas, and that 12 percent are minors.

Most Moldovan women are trafficked to Russia because they don't need visas to enter the country, but also to Turkey, the Gulf states and the Balkans.

Victims are usually young girls from poor families who graduate from middle school without few, if any, prospects for the future.

But older women can also fall prey to traffickers.

Twenty-nine-year-old Mariana is from a village in northern Moldova and spent more than four years in Macedonia after being sold to Serbian traffickers.

She thought she was being led into Italy, but instead, this is what she says happened.

MARIANA: When we arrived in Macedonia, we were sent to a policeman's house. The policeman bought girls and then sold them to nightclubs. We spent one month and a half at his place. I did not know where I was and asked him when we were going to Italy. He said, "Italy is here." Then he sold me to a club.

RFE/RL: Did you know his name?

MARIANA: Agron. He was an [ethnic] Albanian. [It was in] Tetovo, Gostivar [regions] ...

RFE/RL: Is he still in business?

MARIANA: No, he is in prison now.

Mariana says Agron was regularly importing girls and selling them to bars. During the day, she says, the women were locked up and beaten if they refused to work as prostitutes.

"The clients were people who came to night clubs, both locals and foreigners, such as Italians, Germans, Bulgarians. Clients would not pay us directly, but they would negotiate with the club owner, who settled the price -- 50 euros per hour, or 100 euros for a longer time," Mariana said.

The three women -- Alina, Angela, and Mariana -- were lucky to escape from their ordeals with the assistance of NGOs.

Alina and Angela have been helped by the Center for the Prevention of Human Trafficking. Mariana found support through the International Center for Women's Rights Protection and Promotion "La Strada."

La Strada has been active in Moldova since 2001, thanks to financing from the Dutch Foreign Ministry and other Western organizations.

La Strada operates in eight other countries in Central and Eastern Europe -- Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Macedonia, Poland, and Ukraine.

Viorelia Rusu, a La Strada activist, says the program also runs a rehabilitation center, which was opened with the help of the International Organization for Migration:

"After we meet them at the airport, the women and children are placed in asylums, where they get medical, legal, and psychological assistance, as well as assistance in furthering their education and learning a profession. We also try to get them a secure job. Since September 2001, La Strada offered repatriation and post-repatriation assistance to some 200 women, out of whom 15 percent were minors, and also assisted more than 250 family members, such as children, since 25 percent of human trafficking victims are single mothers," Rusu said.

The Moldovan authorities have recently taken some long-overdue steps to monitor migration and trafficking. Moldova's Prime Minister Vasile Tarlev spoke with RFE/RL.

"We took several measures. First of all, we created, for the first time, a department for migration, which began to put order into the data we had. Migration in itself shouldn't be a problem. But [there is a problem] with illegal migration, with human trafficking, with other unwanted phenomena, which are causing obvious complications not only for Moldovan citizens, but also for other countries. The department for migration has already been a success," Tarlev said.

The government also established a National Anti-Trafficking Committee, which includes government officials and representatives of both NGOs and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.

Observers, however, question how effective the new efforts will be.

As for the three victims -- Alina, Angela, and Mariana -- they are now trying to put their lives back together, step by step, although it is a painful process.

With the help of La Strada and the Center for the Prevention of Human Trafficking, they are studying so they can get normal jobs in Moldova.

"I'd like to get my life back here in Moldova. I don't want to ever have to go away to some foreign country," Angela said.

Ziarul de garda

Moldova nu face nimic pentru saracii sai
Allan Freedman

Interviu cu Allan Freedman, directorul Organizatiei Internationale pentru Migratie (OIM), Oficiul din Moldova
— OIM este prezent deja de … ani in Moldova si activeaza preponderent pentru combaterea traficului de femei. Cat de mult ati avansat intru solutionarea acestei probleme?

— Problema traficului de femei nu este decat rezultatul unor alte probleme, de aceea nu vom putea stopa niciodata traficul de femei, daca nu vor fi rezolvate problemele social–economice din R. Moldova. Or, femeile din Moldova, duse in sclavie in diferite tari ale lumii, nu sunt decat un produs al unei societati care nu le–a oferit nimic in schimb.

Am analizat in repetate randuri starea sociala a victimelor sclaviei sexuale pe care reusim sa le readucem din strainatate, si iata ce am constatat. Peste 90 la suta dintre acestea provin din familii cu mari probleme si au fost supuse unor abuzuri serioase. Asta inseamna ca aceste tinere au fost violate de catre tati sau frati, au fost batute de parinti sau soti, au suferit traume severe in casa in care au crescut. Pe acest teren apar traficantii care, se stie, sunt, in mare, rude, prieteni, cunoscuti. Acestia abordeaza foarte sensibil, la etapa initiala, victima si–i ofera tocmai ceea ce viseaza majoritatea acestor fete: sa evadeze din casa in care au fost abuzate, avand sprijinul si bunavointa unei cunostinte. Desigur, traficantii nu fac decat sa abuzeze de necazul si dorul de o viata mai buna a acestor fiinte, si aici iarasi remarc faptul ca victimele nu ar putea fi atrase in capcana atat de simplu, daca ar avea "consilieri" adevarati in familie.

— Ati spus ca marea majoritate a sclavelor sexuale au fost violate in copilarie in propriile lor familii. De ce credeti ca se intampla asta?

— Pot doar sa presupun ce se intampla in aceste familii care sunt dominate de lipsuri economice, in primul rand. Problema vine de la barbatii maturi din familie, care fiind frustrati de lipsa locurilor de munca, de lipsa unor oportunitati de a oferi o bunastare familiei pe care se simt obligati sa o intretina, simt aceasta lipsa de respect fata de cei slabi, devin tot mai tulburati de lantul de probleme, dedandu–se aversiunilor si furiei, ajungand sa isi adjudece rolul de cel mai puternic in familie prin abuz si violenta. Acest model de comportament a ajuns sa fie lectia de comportament pentru generatia de tineri, care invata ca barbatul e puternic si pedepseste, iar femeile trebuie sa se supuna oricarui mod de comportament. Ca rezultat, femeile nu au puteri sa riposteze in nici un mod acasa, ele se razbuna si pleaca, acceptand orice conditii, doar ca sa fuga de aceste suferinte.

Violenta domestica este o problema ignorata totalmente in Moldova. Cel putin, societatea inca nu a ajuns sa considere bataile din familie si incestul ca pe o problema. Dar aici e vorba de drepturile fundamentale ale copiilor si femeilor. Astfel, traficul nu e inceputul, ci continuarea problemei, iar femeia abuzata in familie devine foarte des sursa de profit pentru traficanti.

— Credeti ca exista solutii rapide pentru stoparea traficului?

— Solutia este unica: oferirea unor locuri de munca. Drama si comedia Moldovei rezida in faptul ca locuri de munca exista, adica de lucru este cat vrei, poti sa lucrezi de dimineata pana seara anul imprejur, dar nu exista acoperiri salariale pentru aceste munci. Ma refer la muncile agricole, in fond. Chisinaul, la prima vedere, este orasul in care oamenii o duc bine. Exista restaurante, magazine scumpe, supermarketuri moderne, sali de fitness pentru elita – si toate acestea sunt mereu aglomerate si solicitate. Este foarte bine ca exista acestea si eu, ca cetatean strain, ma simt bine sa merg la un magazin modern sa fac cumparaturi. Dar, daca privim in profunzime aceasta situatie, constatam ca toate aceste institutii din Chisinau lucreaza in fond pentru elita, iar oamenii simpli nici nu au ce calca acolo. Mai mult decat atat, chiar daca in toate aceste localuri lucreaza cetateni ai Moldovei, acestea nu sunt cel mai bine platite si nu reprezinta slujbele avantajoase care ar face oamenii sa se simta in siguranta. Si pe urma, aceasta inseamna ca exista doar o societate de consumatori. Unde sunt, insa, si care este situatia producatorilor? – iata intrebarea care necesita un raspuns. De aceasta trebuie sa se ocupe nu OIM, ci institutiile de guvernare.

— Cat de facila este legatura OIM cu Guvernul?

— Mentinem in permanenta o legatura de colaborare. Simtim sprijinul oamenilor din diferite departamente, care desfasoara activitati concrete in fiecare zi. Cu toate acestea, ramane fara raspuns o mare intrebare fata de conducerea Moldovei: a facut presedintele Voronin cel putin o declaratie oficiala in care sa abordeze direct problema traficului de fiinte umane si sa–si expuna clar pozitia si politicile? Urmeaza alte intrebari: cati bani a alocat Guvernul pentru implementarea unor programe cu termen lung de combatere a traficului? Ce eforturi reale intreprinde Moldova pentru a combate acest fenomen? Care este rolul ambasadelor RM peste hotare? Au facut acestea tot ce se putea in tarile de destinatie ca sa semnaleze, sa discute si sa atraga forte internationale impotriva traficului? Cate acorduri la nivel inalt au fost incheiate pe problema data? Asupra acestor chestiuni ar trebui sa lucreze atat autoritatile Moldovei, cat si comunitatea internationala, impreuna. Deci, as da o nota inalta conducerii Moldovei pentru faptul ca recunoaste problema traficului, dar e nevoie sa muncim mai mult impreuna pentru identificarea si aplicarea solutiilor.

— Este vreo legatura directa intre cresterea dimensiunilor traficului de femei si coruptie?

— Traficul de oameni nu ar exista in Moldova, si nici pe scara mondiala, daca nu ar exista coruptia. Am studiat destul de mult aceasta problema si am stabilit ca alaturi de conditiile sociale complicate, coruptia este un motor al traficului. Traficul este un business multinational, care presupune transportarea internationala a produsului, in acest caz, femei sau fete, dintr–o tara in alta. Aceasta activitate solicita implicarea individualilor la trecerea hotarelor si asta nu s–ar intampla fara complicitatea unor reprezentanti ai instantelor oficiale. Detinem rapoarte care contin probe asupra relatiei dintre traficanti si persoane oficiale corupte. Altfel, victimele traficului nu ar primi pasapoarte si acte de calatorie in termene reduse.

— Traficantii au demonstrat ca stiu sa–si organizeze activitatea, schimband in fiecare zi metodele de lucru, rutele, tarile de destinatie. Care sunt tarile "recipiente" ale sclavelor sexuale in ultimul timp?

— In acest an, Rusia si tarile Asiei, in special Turcia si Emiratele Arabe Unite, raman in top. Avem peste 250 de tinere intoarse din trafic in anul curent si majoritatea provin din aceste tari. Sesizam o scadere a numarului de victime in zona balcanica.

— Este o legatura intre retragerea trupelor NATO din Balcani si reducerea consumatorilor de sclave din bordeluri?

— Da, trebuie sa confirmam ca reducerea trupelor armate inseamna dimuniarea traficului de femei in aceasta zona. Acum statele balcanice au incetat razboaiele si incearca sa se apropie de standardele democratiei. Destinatia majora a traficului ramane, in prezent, Turcia. Vizele pentru aceasta tara se obtin foarte simplu, de la Chisinau exista rute directe de avion si autocar. Este calea ideala pentru traficantii care castiga bani din aceasta.

— OIM ajuta oameni afectati de diferite probleme de migratie, – adica nu doar victimele exploatarii sexuale, ci si ale exploatarii prin munca, prin traficare pentru cersit, prelevare de organe, pentru adoptii ilegale. Ce proiecte vizeaza alte componente ale migratiei?

— Detinem date despre exploatarea prin munca si incalcarea drepturilor barbatilor moldoveni in Rusia, sau despre exploatarea copiilor in activitati de cersit in diferite state europene. Intentionam sa efectuam un studiu special asupra problemelor exploatarii barbatilor si, in special, a exploatarii sexuale a baietilor in strainatate. Exista semnale despre acest fenomen, dar lipsesc date si fapte exacte, de aceea nu putem da aprecieri concrete despre proportiile acestuia. Dupa efectuarea acestei investigatii, vom decide asupra unor eventuale proiecte in acest domeniu.

Interviul complet poate fi gasit la http://garda.com.md/21/interviu/